Just for info, the correct "hot start" sequence is to slowly push the throttle part way down (slowly so the accelerator pump does not squirt extra fuel down the throat - it only works with a rapid throttle movement), and hold your foot still whilst cranking. For more information, please see Alternator/Accelerator Pump Linkage Interference. eric@1967beetle.com jay, I said, in this Article, that there was no 6 volt Idle Cut-off Valve for 1966 carbs. The first dual port 1600s came in 1971, and have a double letter in front of the engine number, AF or AD for that year. will need further adjusting. Unscrew the float needle valve from the upper part of the carburetor. Tim Robson. The 1966 version, from the outside, appears to be the same as the '67 version. It is rather an anti-dieseling device. I apologize for the confusion. [1] 2. Doing all that will reduce the hesitation somewhat. Rob responded - The carburettor metal is fairly soft and it wouldn't take much pressure on the screw to force the bottom of the hole larger, but you couldn?t see it with a flashlight down that tiny hole anyway. 1600, 009, 30 PICT-1. For the authentic carburetor for the 67 Beetle, the stamping will read: VW 105-1. BTWcheck for identifying markings on the Gasoline Container. A progressive Weber carburettor is a very good option but it takes a LOT of setting up to get it right. SKP SK133003. I thoroughly enjoyed your article and precise style of writing! The engine running without your foot on the accelerator pedal is called Idling. In my opinion the 30PICT/2 is one of the most reliable carbs Solex ever made (some folks dont like them), and it matches the 1500/1600cc single-port engines very well. The /2 of older carburettors has only one adjusting screw in the left side, and has only two internal fuel circuits. At the bottom of the carburettor is a second butterfly valve, the Throttle Valve (you can't see it, but trust me) which opens to supply air and fuel to the intake manifold and on to the engine. Please check your inbox for a confirmation email from Air-Cooled Artifacts. jay, Hey, Donna! We own a '67 Beetle and a '68 Karmann Ghia. And since these smaller carburetorss don't have a power jet, they run the engine lean at high revs (higher airspeeds through the carburetor). on the top of the carburettor bowl. One other thing I must tell you. jay. Miscellaneous Topics Related to Carburettor Tuning, Carburetor Overhaul
BTWtell me about the stamping which you see on the flange (drivers side)the flange that sits on the manifold. Interference
Note: You can test the operation of the idle cutoff valve solenoid very easily. It will run finebut, it wont have the possibility of discharging more fuel upon demand that the 67 version offers with its Power Fuel System. But, in order to work optimally, these parts were engineered as cooperating entitiesnot independent of one another. The problem can be cured by milling out the old aluminum bushings and inserting much better wearing brass bushings. Turn it in slowly until it bottoms. Keep loving your air-cooled VW, Frank! Easy to order at Paruzzi classic Volkswagen supplies via Referncia Paruzzi: 32115, Volkswagen referncia 341129881C So it is often used with a non-vacuum distributor like the 009. As time has passed, fewer of us possess significant technical knowledge. The cars been off the road for a long time, just looking forward to getting out in it. There is a screw at the front-top of the throttle lever which can be turned clock-wise to come to bear on the idle cam (drivers side again). Thanks for responding. jay. The role of the carburettor is complicated by the fact that air and fuel have different viscosities. Much appreciated! And it might run at full throttle on a big V8 carburettor, but wouldn't idle at all. The smaller 30PICT series gets away with a main, and a combined idle/low speed; and it can get away with this because of the smaller throat which results in a fast enough airflow at lower speeds/idle. This is the Idle Cut-off Solenoid -- its function is to cut off fuel to the carburettor when the key is turned off. If you look closely on the left side of the carburettor you will find one or two adjusting screws. This is the fuel supply line. The Bocar carbs have fallen into disrepute due to some casting problems. Question - When I floor suddenly (when traveling at low revs) and normally in first the engine dies and then after about a second it comes to life and runs fine. Also, the 28-series carbs usually have a larger jet in the power fuel system than the 30 series when used with the check ball in the carb body, its delivery was limited somewhat. Hello again, RussYesthis does sound exciting. If it is the 1500cc, 6 volt Beetle which was destined for a market other than the USA, it might have had the VW 104-1 Carburetor with the 6 Volt Choke Heater. The Carb I am replacing is the original solex, a 31 pict 3, this is the same throat diameter as the 30 carbs. VW Solex Carburetor 30 PICT 3 For Air-Cooled Volkswagen. Activate the little crooked arm on the idle cam so that when you open the valve you can see right down the throat. Be sure that the wire to the cut-off valve is securely connected. 7. solex 30 pict-1 accelerator pump operation. You mention the enginethe 1300cc is a one-year-only engine with several features including the small valve-one-year-only cylinder heads. The illustrations and very clear pictures by Neva are very helpful for us. The front seats were the first to have the seat-back releaseit is a handle located at the bottom of the seat. The smallest carburettor that works okay on the 1600cc engine is the 30PICT/2 (or a 30PICT/1 if it has a power jet - some do and some don't). Gary HAS commented on how demanding I am. This carburetor is now SCORE approved for classes 1-2/1600, 5/1600, 9, 11. Difference between 34 PICT and 30 PICT? ). Follow the fuel supply line down from the top of the carburettor to just below the Distributor (the round orange or black thing with five heavy wires protruding from the top of it). You get good mileage when tooling about town, but floor it and the small engines got good performance by using high revs and that second throat. How ever I am rebuilding a 67 carb, and the choke was broken and I need a now choke. Glad that you found the identification. The ideal fuel/air mixture is called Stoichiometry. Engine warmed up, but switched off. My engine is a 12 volt set up and it was registered as a 1967 VW. ~~~. Engine is a 1200cc year of manufacture 1961. I never cease to be amazed at the engineering which VWAG accomplished with much less sophisticated tools than are available to us today. He was sorting thru his Haflinger parts and came across a cool old plastic gas can that fits in the spare tire and a 30 pict 1 carburetor. to the Cylinder Heads on either side. Carburetor Repair Kit. . In fact, we raised our family in these cars. As for the 6 Volt Pilot Jet ValveI have 2 or 3 and I think that they operate. This is because, although the casting is present in the 66 version, it is not drilled through to the bowlthe source of the fuel to be dispensed. Any residual gasoline simply would flow back into the bowl and would have no effect upon performance. As for the 6 Volt Pilot Jet ValveI have 2 or 3 and I think that they operate. 28 Pict Vs. 30 Pict-3. Hitting the side of the. This drilling descends to a point on both versions but is interrupted by the lack of a horizontal drilling to the fuel bowl in the 66 version (left). Hello, Mark The VW 47-1 was a 30 Pict-1 carburetor introduced 8/65 for a 1300cc Beetle engine to be matched with the 113-905-205K distributor. Alan, 4. Hi Jay. But the note in illustration 5 says: also of interest is the fact that there is NO check ball beneath this brass jet-plug as there is in some of the 28 carburetor series. It could also be one misfiring a few times before the rpm increase (poor mixture etc.). Unscrew the Fast Idle Adjuster (sits on the stepped cam), until it is clear of the stepped cam. I hope that I have covered the bases. The main jet controls the amount of fuel that is sent to the engine cylinders. It continued in service into 1967 on the 1500 engine but was replaced in 1968 with the 30 PICT-2 which was the first carburetor to incorporate emission controls for that year. Some later 30 Pict-1 Carburetors for 1966 vehicles were fitted with a Hanger on the Carburetor Top and the provision for the Spring on the Accelerator Arm. Hey I loved the article and as a newbe to VW carbs I already learned a bunch. Fuel System Repair Manual. Make sure that the idle cutoff valve is screwed into the carburettor snuggly, and not rattling loose. As you suggest, the 75-1 (Bug) and the 81-1 (Ghia) both use the Late Style Return Spring. Solex 30 pict/2 carburetor adjustment procedures. His son was the one who sold us the car. Im going to try and get a birth certificate from Germany. I have used them for many years with great results. This forms the air-tight seal which is required. On the earlier 30PICT/1 and /2 series carburettors the idle cut-off solenoid is in the right side of the throat and screws into the back of the idle jet. Shop JBugs today for high quality aircooled VW parts! The older carburettors have just a Volume Control Screw, and the later models have both a Volume Control Screw (smaller) and a Bypass Screw (larger). Confused? As you said in one of your notes, if the throttle valve is not seating properly (i.e., 0.004 inch open) it will interfere greatly with the normal IDLE flow -- i.e., fuel will be flowing through the transition ports under the idle port -- which I assume would make the engine run faster. At least, this is what my charts tell me. Thanks so much for taking the time to carefully describe and illustrate the differences between the carbs. I encourage you to look for that stamping first. Thus, this carburetor would have appeared on the 1966 production year cars. VW 83-1 with the late style throttle return spring. Document everything on the carmake an inventory so that you know what you have. Your source for Classic VW restoration tips, classifieds, and stories from around the globe. Made in W. Germany Thats the only way you will be able to determine which carburetor you have. Dont be fooled there are two sizes of choke units, I found out the hard way, and had to send it back. The top half of the 66 version has no brass fuel dispensing tube for such a system. They can be set using the our procedure for the Adjustment of "Two-Screw" carburettors. which splits right and left and carries the fuel/air mixture from
Now, you can adjust the accelerator lever screw to turn the idle up or down. 9. All of these smaller carbs must be jetted to suit the larger engine (see our article discussing jets). Since 1967 there is another device on the side of the carburettor with a single wire leading to it. I want you to contact the following person. It is the origional carb. Restoring A Vintage Volkswagen Bug. The check ball prevents back-flow (which would be detrimental, of course). If only I had another life-time! And an extra bit of performance if we are using the wrong model. This is a great forum for our 67 Volkswagens. Stay tuned to 1967beetle.com! Here are the manifold flange numbers which we should expect to find on a 30 Pict-1 carburetor for a USA 1966 Beetle: Here is the manifold flange number that we should expect to find on a 30 Pict-1 carburetor for a USA 1967 Beetle:VW 105-1. I appreciate your valuable comments! Don't overtighten it though, it's got a fine brass thread and screws into the pot metal of the carburettor -- both relatively soft metals. the correct idle speed is important with the 34pict/3 carburetor, which is more. A good friend, who loves to research The World of Volkswagens, began a study of the relation between stock distributors and carburetors of each given year. Meaning all.lol, saves the photo storage. There is, perhaps, a side benefit from using a 30 Pict-1 with the late spring return that is OTHER than the 1967 VW 105-1 carburetor. Another amazing tutorial Jay! The 30 Pict-1 Series is an efficient and simple carburetor. All these 30 and 31 series carburettors ( 1200cc, 1300cc, 1500cc, and 1600cc engines)
Is your carburetor a 30 Pict-1? Rob wrote ? It caught some other people off-guard, as well. Jay really did a great job with this one. I enjoyed working through this issue. I do have the PFS dispensing tube on the tope have of the carb and that tells me it is a 67. It has some marking on it. It had a 125 Main Jet with an Air Correction Jet size of 125z. Mystery solved. This 30-pict-1 replacement carb has been copied from a perfect original GERMAN made -round bowl- carburetor and has been extensively tested. Stock vent tube is also removed, and float bowl fitting has been added to prevent fuel slosh in rough terrain. Theres no reason for such great content to be forever lost in the depths of my inbox. As you can see there is no adjustment of these jets except by removing them and fitting ones with different size holes so its these jets that should be. I was reading this article and found it very helpful. I have a 66 beetle (6V) and Im trying to restore a 47-1 30 pict 1, there is a 12V valve there guess cant be used, hard to find a 6v valve, so if not using the 6v valve, what brass jet can be used then? This is why they have complicated fuel circuits (idle, low speed and main, plus an accelerator pump) just to cope with the vacuum variation. 640867 The /3 designation means the carburettor has three fuel circuits inside, and two adjusting screws on the left side. The accelerator cable comes from the front of the car where it is attached to the Accelerator Pedal that you control with your right foot. Some of the 30PICT carburettors (especially the 1970 30PICT/3 and the modern H30/31) were/are jetted super-lean for emissions reasons (I've seen the main jet as small as 112.5). jay. If you like puzzlesyouve come to the right place! Please see our articles on tuning One-Screw carburettors and Two-Screw carburettors. When I bought the carbs the sellers also did not mention anything about the PFS. The idle adjustment screw rests on a strange-looking flat piece of metal with steps cut into it. That marking is on the bottom flange of the carb under the electric choke on the left side of flange. The Pierburg 34PICT/3 Carburettor, Adjustment of "Single-Screw" Carburettors
My chart shows that the 83-1 did not have the PFS. They tell me the smaller one is a 6 volt which they dont make anymore. Part Number: 113129029HJB $109.95. The are alignment marks on the ring and canister body so you can see how much it's moved. Parts/Rebuild. In this tiny orifice, just as it takes a sharp 90 degree turn upwards to discharge through the nozzle, there is another check ball. Now there is a quality guy with a ton of integrity. Ive recently got a 30 pict 1 as a replacement for a 1300 DP engine. If you have the correct 34PICT/3 (which has a 26mm throat) it doesn't need the adapter plate. Thanks again for your knowledge. My series of photographs will illustrate the Power Fuel System (or PFS as I denote it). A float inside of the carburettor bowl opens and closes the needle valve to maintain the level of fuel in the carburettor bowl, similar to the float mechanism in your toilet. Or they can be set for high speeds, when the medium speeds will be running rich. Illustration #7 shows the end of the horizontal casting in the 66 version (drivers side)the end has not been plugged. Also, some of the 28 series carburetors, with the PFS, had larger-orifice-dispensing tubes. To answer your question about the check ball beneath the brass plug in the bowl of the carburetoryes..that ball is essential. 28 PICT-1, 30 PICT-1 and 30 PICT-2, remove the idle mixture screw and spring. Thank you for responding to the Article with your question. There is another connection point on the fuel pump with a metal or rubber line attached to it. If it still is 6 volted, good. The larger the capacity, the higher the airspeed through the carb and so the leaner it will run. Thanks Jay for all your hard work, making it so much easier for us. Kentucky. Now compare the 83-1 with the VW 105-1 which was for the Beetle from 8/66 with a Main Jet of 120, an Air Correction Jet of 125z and with the Power Fuel Supply drilling and a Dispensing Nozzle of 0.50 w/o a check ball. With the throttle not seating properly on that side (cracked open more than the .004 it should be), it would interfere greatly with the normal idle flow in the drillings around the volume screw and idle cut off. Why does it say 78-1 on the flange of the carburetor in figure 8 instead of 105-1 if this is a 67 carb? There is only one screw on the drivers side of the carb. Hello Jay, The Factory Main Jet would have been 115. Top. There is more to the Power Fuel Supply system than just that tube. The script on the decklid only says Volkswagen (2) when trying to find early return spring part number, I find that it states for up to 65 beetle. Be sure to look for the stamping on the flange. I know that someone is going to catch this sooner or later. Thank you for your patience! Ha I knew Id be needing this info. Purely speculation on my part! We definitely has benefitted from your article. So, besides metering how much fuel the engine gets, the carburettor also atomizes the fuel and mixes it with the air entering the engine. If left to its own devices, the engine will die. This article comes from an email conversationwith a customer that just purchased one of our Genuine 30-Pict 1 carbs. (To clarify: In the single-port design the port splits INSIDE
I recognize you as one of the knowledgeable persons on the Samba Forums who passes his knowledge to the rest of us! So, should I change the VW79 entry to VW 79-1 with an Austia note? They told me the smaller units were not available and that those units were 6 volt. Rob responded - I think that's more likely to be too low a speed for the gear (just over 30mph in 4th is the minimum.) Thanks again guys All great stuff.
Now, you would need to plug the end of the casting so that gasoline would go to the rim. Doubtfulbut remotely possible. Note the tiny, shiny plug. Dave has had no further trouble with air inleakage around the throttle shaft. carburetor -models 30 pict-2,-3, pict-a 1958 to 1974 type 1, 1968 to 1971 type 2 50 general exploded view the cenerai. Nor did they mismatch tops and bottoms. your engine is Single-Port. There are 3 screws securing the choke ringwhich keeps the choke element in its intended position. Jim. DO NOT OVER-TIGHTEN! Float Needle Valve
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This is fantastic information. Reason: Failed GASP Bot Filter Test (checkbox) *] Mark, What is the reason for applying the 83-1 top to the 105-1 throttle body? But it also has to operate at idle and cruising speeds. There certainly were. Remove the air cleaner. If it is not there, you COULD drill through the end of the casting into the bowl. Thanks, Jay, for all the details and to Neva for the great pictures. Jets
car-workshop-manuals-vw-beetle 1/6 Downloaded from uniport.edu.ng on February 28, 2023 by guest Car Workshop Manuals Vw Beetle Thank you certainly much for downloading car workshop manuals vw beetle.Most . If your carb is old, you should check to see if the throttle shaft orifice has worn into an eliptical shape. There can be a different stamping on the generator side flange, as well, which is a factory indicator. The timing is set ATDC. Can I use my 30PICT/1 carburettor on my 1600cc dual-port engine? Active Classifieds . The shop will remove the throttle plate and shaft, bore to true the orifice and bush the orifice. It remains consistent that for the 1967 Beetle destined for consumption for the USA market, only the VW 105-1 was the carburetor of choice. 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